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you put chrysler in very awkward position. >> i did put chrysler in awkward position, no two ways about it. it is really workers fault. they are the guys that did it. there are a lot of people working in the factory and i'm hearing from the people in the factory right now, majority of people that i have been hearing from that work in the factory are not really thrilled that these guys are coming back. megyn: they gave them all a black eye. >> the people in the factory don't want the guys working in there. megyn: majority of the workers are hard-working people who don't get hammered on the lunch break and go back and build our jeeps. they took a beating as well in the public. i want to talk about whether this is the new state? we've been talking about unions in this program as michigan is now a right-to-work state and this is where this happened, in michigan. i will pick up on that and how this story plays in right after the break. we'll carry you guys over. stay with me. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you stil
you put chrysler in very awkward position. >> i did put chrysler in awkward position, no two ways about it. it is really workers fault. they are the guys that did it. there are a lot of people working in the factory and i'm hearing from the people in the factory right now, majority of people that i have been hearing from that work in the factory are not really thrilled that these guys are coming back. megyn: they gave them all a black eye. >> the people in the factory don't want the...
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chrysler does not agree but it wants to put this situation behind them as so many do. chrysler said we respect the agreements procedure process in the collective bargaining agreement and the relationship with united autoworkers. those that will not go the of state exchange, where republicans says he is convinced the government makes up the implementation as it goes along in providing almost no information on how works. the state's have to reach a decision by friday. growing democratic opposition set to take effect senators and senators elect send a letter to harry reid urging a delay that the medical device industry has given little guidance. obama and speaker boehner meeting face-to-face over the fiscal cliff. they're not sayinn what they talked about as the "a team" joins us next. lou: the joining me now the "a team" special assistant to the george bush ron christie, and pulitzer prize winning journalist never an assistant to george w. bush of love and president morsi says the rescinded his powers to arrested a civilian industry? >> good news tonight. he knowledge he
chrysler does not agree but it wants to put this situation behind them as so many do. chrysler said we respect the agreements procedure process in the collective bargaining agreement and the relationship with united autoworkers. those that will not go the of state exchange, where republicans says he is convinced the government makes up the implementation as it goes along in providing almost no information on how works. the state's have to reach a decision by friday. growing democratic...
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for everyone from public school teachers that are unionized to autoworkers on the line at gm, ford or chrysler. interestingly, though, today, too here, brooke, you had fellow union workers protesting that aren't even part of the legislation. it does not apply to firefighters or police officers. but yet here today we found firefighters who were protesting this saying this is bad for workers across michigan. and nationally. i want you to listen to ted coakley, he's one of those and he explains why. does this mean the gbeginning o a death of unions in the country? do you think it is that big symbolically? >> i think things like this are waking the sleeping giant. i think workers and working families are tired of losing. they want a fair share of the prosperity of this state, and this country, and i think that's going to help build the union movement. >> reporter: -- from this right to work legislation. why are you here? >> that's correct. as of right now we're exempt from this legislation. but it doesn't change the fact that we want to be here to support all our brothers and sisters in the unions
for everyone from public school teachers that are unionized to autoworkers on the line at gm, ford or chrysler. interestingly, though, today, too here, brooke, you had fellow union workers protesting that aren't even part of the legislation. it does not apply to firefighters or police officers. but yet here today we found firefighters who were protesting this saying this is bad for workers across michigan. and nationally. i want you to listen to ted coakley, he's one of those and he explains...
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he had been scheduled to help announce daimler chrysler's factory expansion outside detroit. president obama took the opportunity to tell the workers and michigan republican leaders where he stands on union busting. >> we should do everything we can to encourage companies like daimler to keep investing in american workers. and by the way, what we shouldn't do -- i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages or working conditions. we shouldn't be doing that. you know -- [ cheering and applause ] you know, these so-called right-to-work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> this is what the president is talking about. a union membership goes down. as it goes down, all middle class income shrinks. without collective bargaining, workers lose the power to demand better wages. this is a direct attack on the middle class. >> you only have to look to michigan, where workers were instrume
he had been scheduled to help announce daimler chrysler's factory expansion outside detroit. president obama took the opportunity to tell the workers and michigan republican leaders where he stands on union busting. >> we should do everything we can to encourage companies like daimler to keep investing in american workers. and by the way, what we shouldn't do -- i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages or working...
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and because of that the june appealed the fact that chrysler terminated these employees. they are entitled to as union employees to receive collective bargaining and have an arbitration they have reinstated it. >> who ordered it? >> the arbitrator in the state of michigan that was in charge of that area. >> the arbitrator ordered these guys back correct because they said there was insufficient evidence. there was no charges. this is suffice the fact that a reporter we spoke to mr. well check from fox 2 the news area there, he actually saw it, witnessed it, broke the story, smelled the pot, the whole thing, the moral of the story is call the cops when you walk in on union workers with or any workers that are. >> otherwise you don't have case. >> i want to be perfectly clear and you are the person to do it for the whole audience watching tonight let me get this straight the union said is this the united auto workers union, i assume? >> yes. >> to the state arbiter or to the by appoint want, all right? there is no evidence that they were drinking and smoking pot on the job.
and because of that the june appealed the fact that chrysler terminated these employees. they are entitled to as union employees to receive collective bargaining and have an arbitration they have reinstated it. >> who ordered it? >> the arbitrator in the state of michigan that was in charge of that area. >> the arbitrator ordered these guys back correct because they said there was insufficient evidence. there was no charges. this is suffice the fact that a reporter we spoke to...
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with the ceos, they are shell shocked even for these guys, like the guys in chrysler building they go in there they don't know what to do. >> i'm a very literal person when i get an invite, they tell me they want me to speak my mind, i do, maybe i should be more little bit ily correct. but they are -- politically correct. they are good people are they are great leaders,. neil: has anyone declined? >> the ones that can fige out a raireally good excuse to not , don't go, it is a terrible distraction, their pr people are coaching them, and coaching them. they don't want to say something that will damage the shareholders, so they play the game. neil: you know, a lot of these guys, have said, and women, have been saying, mr. president, we think a deal shoul be struck, and revenues should be part. we don't like some of them said, i'm paraphrasing, we donnt like this dispractic dispractice pori weighted. >> he is doing this for optics, inviti them in s, go back and sell the american people on the idea, he does not care what they have to say, he has made up his mind. the republicans and democ
with the ceos, they are shell shocked even for these guys, like the guys in chrysler building they go in there they don't know what to do. >> i'm a very literal person when i get an invite, they tell me they want me to speak my mind, i do, maybe i should be more little bit ily correct. but they are -- politically correct. they are good people are they are great leaders,. neil: has anyone declined? >> the ones that can fige out a raireally good excuse to not , don't go, it is a...
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chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with them. so they must have this sort of ironclad language. you're a lawyer what, do you think? >> well, i think chrysler is now on the receiving end of what so many others feel in states where unions are really powerful. and so they're now the ones who have to deal with it. as a legal matter, i don't think chrysler is going to be able to challenge this. i think the ruling is going to stand and maybe chrysler will rue the day they were so lax and tolerant of union power. >> steve: speaking of power. powerball, the second guy who won t
chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with...
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but then the topics on the union, chrysler wanted to fire workers who were spot smoking spot and getting drunk. they were off the clock and came back to work on the assembly line. the arbitration guy said you have to hire them back. fair or unfair? >> i'm trying to get over this. if i got scarred for every time somebody called me fat i'd be nothing but scar tissue. it doesn't bother me. >> kimberly: you like it because i said i like meaty men. >> bob: what is the big deal? he said fat. >> dana: didn't say it to their face. it was on the receipt. >> bob: if you fired everybody out smoking on the lunch break after the country would be out of work. >> eric: may i weigh in? >> dana: yes. >> eric: this is the problem with america we're worried about firing people. business owners if you want fire them because they called someone fat, fire them. guess what? he is not going to get employed until he turns his ways around. fire away. fire that guyer radio d.j. good luck getting more radio d.j.s. turned around and the unions tell you, you can't fire someone for doing something wrong the whole worl
but then the topics on the union, chrysler wanted to fire workers who were spot smoking spot and getting drunk. they were off the clock and came back to work on the assembly line. the arbitration guy said you have to hire them back. fair or unfair? >> i'm trying to get over this. if i got scarred for every time somebody called me fat i'd be nothing but scar tissue. it doesn't bother me. >> kimberly: you like it because i said i like meaty men. >> bob: what is the big deal? he...
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>> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because they don't put in the union political fund. >> dana: 24 states have lower unemployment rate and other states are not right to work, while shouldn't michigan, at least they have a democratic process. it's passed. the governor has been thoughtful about it. people, majority of people support it. why not let them try something that would alter history? >> kimberly: why not? >> bob: why not bad handguns in countries that don't have murder. here we ban them and it -- >> greg: the funny thing is we talk about greece, but before there was greece, there was detroit. detroit is greece. if it was only the acropolis. dead city. people left because they couldn't make a living, the unions suffocate pod tenial. >> bob: true about toledo and cleveland and cincinnati? the northern cities that hav
>> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because they don't put in the union political fund. >> dana: 24 states have lower unemployment rate and other states are not right to work, while shouldn't michigan, at least they have a democratic process. it's passed. the...
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gm, chrysler were all on the brink of failure and if they failed, the suppliers and distributors getting the business from those countries, they would have died off, too. even ford could have gone down. production halted. factories shuttered. once proud companies shopped up, sold off for scraps. and all of you, the men and women who built these companies with your own hands, would have been hung out to dry. and everybody in this community that depends on you, restaurant owners, storekeepers, bartenders. they -- their livelihoods would have been at stake, too. so i wasn't about to let that happen. i placed my bet on american workers. we bet on american ingenuity. i'd make that same bet any day of the week. three and a half years later that bet is paying off. this industry's added over 250,000 new jobs. american auto industry is back. and companies like diamler know you're still a smart bet. they could have made their investments somewhere else but they didn't. and if you ask them whether it was a tough call, they tell you it wasn't even close. so the word's going out all around the world.
gm, chrysler were all on the brink of failure and if they failed, the suppliers and distributors getting the business from those countries, they would have died off, too. even ford could have gone down. production halted. factories shuttered. once proud companies shopped up, sold off for scraps. and all of you, the men and women who built these companies with your own hands, would have been hung out to dry. and everybody in this community that depends on you, restaurant owners, storekeepers,...
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, they also put out a radio ad that said the same thing, and they continued to repeat it even after chrysler and the fact checkers had said it was simply not true. jeep was actually expanding its production in the u.s. the reason it was thinking of building, that it's planning to build a plant in china is to meet the increased demand for jeeps in china, so it was just blatantly false and yet they persisted with it. >> you know what's interesting, too, remember when the chrysler ceo, sergio marchione had to put out a statement basically saying, liar, liar, pants on fire, this is not going to happen. that's never, or more nicely i'm obliged to unambiguously restate our position. jeep production will not be moved from the united states to china. it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. there were strategists who were stunned that this ad, that this was being said, because they thought it was kind of signaled a desperate move. what was the runner-up, what was the next runner-up that could have been picked as the biggest lie? >> well we had ten finalists and i should note that we had a rea
, they also put out a radio ad that said the same thing, and they continued to repeat it even after chrysler and the fact checkers had said it was simply not true. jeep was actually expanding its production in the u.s. the reason it was thinking of building, that it's planning to build a plant in china is to meet the increased demand for jeeps in china, so it was just blatantly false and yet they persisted with it. >> you know what's interesting, too, remember when the chrysler ceo,...
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chrysler said it disagrees with the decision but it wants to move forward. a suspect in texas not letting a little thing like handcuffs. take a look. guy stealing the cop tar while handcuff. see darren douglas porter sneak into the driver's seat after rolling down the rear window which isn't supposed to roll down. cops were talking to one another. and about some store that he allegedly burglarized and 41-year-old abandoned the car a few blocks away. cops are confident they will catch him soon. so he did get away. most viewed youtube video ever and smash hit in the u.s. did the gangnam style rapper once wish death to american soldiers? ♪ gangnam style ♪ >> by the way gangnam is the wealthest area of south korea. back in 2004, rapper psy called for slow and painful death for soldiers in iraq and their families. he has recently apologized and set to perform for the president during a christmas special which tapes tomorrow in washington. an online petition asks that psy be removed from the show but that petition has since been taken down. the president still
chrysler said it disagrees with the decision but it wants to move forward. a suspect in texas not letting a little thing like handcuffs. take a look. guy stealing the cop tar while handcuff. see darren douglas porter sneak into the driver's seat after rolling down the rear window which isn't supposed to roll down. cops were talking to one another. and about some store that he allegedly burglarized and 41-year-old abandoned the car a few blocks away. cops are confident they will catch him soon....
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right now, if you work at ford, general motors, chrysler on the line, you've got to be part of the uaw, part of the united auto workers. this would not only affect public sector workers like teachers but those private sector workers like auto workers. three bills passed, two in the senate last night, one in the house. the governor, rick schneider, very supportive of this legislation. it's expected to be taken up here again at the state capitol on tuesday. i want you to take a listen to jeff breslin. then you'll hear from the governor. >> to be pro worker, give freedom of choice to our workplace and that legislators moved promptly and efficiently, moving it through the legislature and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >> in the state of michigan we've had a fledgling economy for some time, way down at the bottom of the list in the country. we've just started to make a comeback. bypassing right to work, that's taken that comeback and cutting the legs out from underneath t it's going to hurt the economy. it's going to hurt the state. it's going to hurt the citizens. >> the
right now, if you work at ford, general motors, chrysler on the line, you've got to be part of the uaw, part of the united auto workers. this would not only affect public sector workers like teachers but those private sector workers like auto workers. three bills passed, two in the senate last night, one in the house. the governor, rick schneider, very supportive of this legislation. it's expected to be taken up here again at the state capitol on tuesday. i want you to take a listen to jeff...
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it is home to united autoworker and it is ford and gm and chrysler and this changes a lot for the people in michigan. >> gretchen: this is a huge epic fight. the idea that michigan is a right to work state. indiana did it 10 months ago as you know. but there is a gop house and i believe the senate is controllled stunningly by republicans and look at this revolt now. this is similar to what we saw in wisconsin . what will happen with the right to work statute. it will eexempt firefighters and police officers and end mandatory dues for public and private unions. >> brian: people have choices to check the box. we'll listen to governor rick snyder of michigan. >> in the unions are strong in michigan and they did a lot of good in terms of work issues . people wanted to join the union. but today we give the workers a choice and give them an opportunity to say do we want to belong to the union. i don't see it antiunion. workers should want to join and be part. it is a worker choice . the second thing it is economic development. we watched what went on in indiana. they have seen a significant in
it is home to united autoworker and it is ford and gm and chrysler and this changes a lot for the people in michigan. >> gretchen: this is a huge epic fight. the idea that michigan is a right to work state. indiana did it 10 months ago as you know. but there is a gop house and i believe the senate is controllled stunningly by republicans and look at this revolt now. this is similar to what we saw in wisconsin . what will happen with the right to work statute. it will eexempt firefighters...
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chrysler now twice . we see it in the southern states where the plants are. they were not the ones that went bankrupt in 2008 and 9. it really is a tough choice and i sympathize with the unions. but in the global economy where you compete on wages and other units of production . you can either have high wages with low employment or as obama said spread around the wealth. >> gretchen: michigan is the heart of the labor industry in this nation specifically whether so many cars are made and the unions are powerful there. it is emblematic and we look back on history. this move to make michigan a right to work state will be historic for that reason alone . what needs to be so clear in the discussion, it is really about choice. it is not about tamping down people's rights. it is actually moving them up and saying you now have a choice. you can pay your dues to the union, or you can choose not to pay the dues. >> steve: what happened in michigan is a great thing. because any time the government insists that you have to pay to go in and get a paycheck, that is it a s
chrysler now twice . we see it in the southern states where the plants are. they were not the ones that went bankrupt in 2008 and 9. it really is a tough choice and i sympathize with the unions. but in the global economy where you compete on wages and other units of production . you can either have high wages with low employment or as obama said spread around the wealth. >> gretchen: michigan is the heart of the labor industry in this nation specifically whether so many cars are made and...
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only would apply to public sector workers, it would apply to those workers that worked for ford, gm, chrysler, all of the unions here. so protesters here are storming through the halls of this state capital in lansing yesterday. i want you to take a listen to what one protester said. >> it terrifies me they are trying to pass this through with no discussion from the other side. no understanding of what's important in it. >> reporter: the union members that were protesting chanting things like "union busting is disgusting." it did not go through public debate, but the republican mayor here insists that this is beneficial for the workers. here's his take. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and that legislators move promptly and efficiently in moving it through the legislature and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >>. the data shows it's right to work for less. it's an effort by the wealthy, by people like the right wing that they want to push workers wages and benefits down. >> reporter: that coming from the head of the united auto workers here. a labor lawyer i spoke
only would apply to public sector workers, it would apply to those workers that worked for ford, gm, chrysler, all of the unions here. so protesters here are storming through the halls of this state capital in lansing yesterday. i want you to take a listen to what one protester said. >> it terrifies me they are trying to pass this through with no discussion from the other side. no understanding of what's important in it. >> reporter: the union members that were protesting chanting...
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melissa: can you imagine you buy the fuel and put it among the manufacturers, chrysler, gm, toyota, especially in older vehicles and look at your manufacturers website if you're in this group, what happens with the e15 the fuel separates and ethanol in there is highly corrosive to your engine. is this new information? did we know this before? >> well, no, we've told the regulators about this we spent millions of dollars in research to try to understand that dynamic. in fact let me reiterate. in the oil and gas business we support biofuels. we're major investors and producers of biofuels but we don't think you should force more biofuels to be mixed with regular gasoline until you know its impact. other research shows it puts five million american cars that are already on the street at risk where it could have some engine damage. we think you need to look at all these other issues that are now starting to come to the surface, but regulators, the administration just moved forward mandating the fuel. melissa: what does it mean to have aaa coming in and putting out a warning, saying don't use it, a
melissa: can you imagine you buy the fuel and put it among the manufacturers, chrysler, gm, toyota, especially in older vehicles and look at your manufacturers website if you're in this group, what happens with the e15 the fuel separates and ethanol in there is highly corrosive to your engine. is this new information? did we know this before? >> well, no, we've told the regulators about this we spent millions of dollars in research to try to understand that dynamic. in fact let me...
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it would affect private workers, but also auto workers at ford, general motors and chrysler. this is very big. it does exclude police and firefighters. but this was passed very quickly. this did not go through a committee. it didn't go through public debate. so democrats are calling this a subversion of the legislative process. i want you to take a listen to the auto workers president who was here protesting yesterday and also the governor rick snider. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and the legislators prove properly and efficiently and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >>. the data and facts from the right to work states show it's right to work for less. it's an effort by the wealthy, by people from the right wing that they want to push wages and benefits down. >> the argument is that it makes the state more competitive and it's going to lead to more jobs, right? >> reporter: right. when you look at the data, what we know is that union workers tepid to make more. pretty significantly more than nonunion workers. a median salary for a union worke
it would affect private workers, but also auto workers at ford, general motors and chrysler. this is very big. it does exclude police and firefighters. but this was passed very quickly. this did not go through a committee. it didn't go through public debate. so democrats are calling this a subversion of the legislative process. i want you to take a listen to the auto workers president who was here protesting yesterday and also the governor rick snider. >> to give freedom of choice to our...
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if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right to work is enshrined in michigan and right not to have to pay union duce is ensidelined and that is it a good thing. >> gretchen: to me, it is it the most important state that this has happened in because the autoindustry is such a hunal part of the economy there and the union is so strong there. do you agree with that? >> absolutely it is the home of the autoindustry union and the idea that michigan should revert to being a right to work state, that is it a revolution in the labor market. >> steve: we heard in the run up to the election, while the gm autoworkers wound up keeping their pensions and benefits, it
if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right...